20 Best Desktop Computer Bundles 2020 (2023 Updated)

Been nothing but issues- trying to connect a monitor, trying to get Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, Ethernet, the right cables, the right keyboard and mouses. It’s been a huge headache and I had to leave town to another state to finish working.

Im returning it when I get home and I’m going to bring home my other desktop from my business office in the other state. And this was expensive and seemed archaic. Just completely frustrated with the time and energy and lack of knowledge on my part and those at Best Buy regarding this specific desktop.

Im returning it when I get home.

These little devices are awesome. They are very cool and easy to use in small spaces or even as desktop PCs for small desk staff. The only reason, I gave this particular one a 3 was that this refurb came with a none functioning SSD drive.

Machine itself tested fine and was working beautifully with an M Key SSD that I had laying around. But I really hate paying for broken stuff; so I returned it and litterally ordered the exact same model from another reseller! I guess you cannot expect too much from refurbs; but definitely return ASAP and get another.

You get what is described, a very basic business computer; so far it seems to work OK. BUT, nothing works as delivered so I can’t recommend this to anyone not comfortable with diving into drivers and bios.

The vendor that sells this through newegg did not respond to emails or chat so don’t expect any help from them even though their advertising would make you believe they are at your beckoned call. First, Windows 10 booted OK but not much worked including the USBs; fix is to log onto Dell and use their online service to update the bios followed by all the drivers.

This gets everything working but the display; neither the old driver nor the newest updated driver, (thanks Intel!) allow setting the display resolution properly. Fix is to go into settings and delete the display driver.

Windows will ask for a new one, select search PC for the drivers, then select the 2013 driver version. In researching this, some suggested the 2015 driver version also works but it was not in the system and I had something that worked so I stopped.

USB WiFi and Bluetooth adapters were included in the package but I have not verified operation.

This is the first time I purchased a refurbished computer. Pros – I like that it does not have a bunch of preloaded software like new computers. If you already have your favorite programs and anti virus programs, this is a really nice touch.

When I started it up, it only had two icons on the desk top, MS Edge and the recycle bin. Works really well, actually better than I expected. Only one con: the headphone jack is deformed and you can not put a RCA jack or whatever jack it takes inside.

You can actually see it is defective by looking at it. If it was not for this, I would have gave it 5 stars. I didn’t notice it until I had a zoom meeting, I can get around it by using my desktop speakers and just the mic jack.

But still, everything should work when you get it. That said, because everything else works really well and the price was good, I would consider getting a refurbished for my next computer.

I am EXTREMELY pleased with this computer bundle! It looks new and everything included in the bundle worked. This is probably one of the best $350 computers you could buy! I bought it to use when I visit my Army daughter to care for my grandson when she deploys.

I’ve been using it for three weeks now and have been doing everything I normally do on my home computer. I’ve bought refurbished electronics three times before and have only been disappointed when I bought them from an independent neighborhood store.

I would definitely purchase from Blair Technology Group again!.

After my all-in-one quit (after a long life), I decided to look at, and purchase, a tower and monitor. It came, the techs at Staples put it together, I took everything home. When I realized I would also need a separate microphone, web cam, and speakers, all of which would need to be connected to the tower and take up precious desk space, I contacted the store.

The staff were superb — taking the tower and monitor back with no hassle, helping with the on-line order for another all-in-one — the Hp 27-dp 1006. The techs also promptly transferred all files from the old/new tower to the new/new HP27.

The HP is fast. the screen is bright, I have some space again on my desk. As usual, I ran out of USB ports, and needed to install a travel hub, but otherwise, I’m good. I returned to Staples because of good service in the past.

They came through again.

Purchased a week ago so review is minimal. Out-of -the-box easy to set up. Plug in mouse, speakers and keyboard. So far, I’m liking the speed and ease of use. Down the road I’ll probably switch out to wireless mouse/speakers/printer.

But, for now it works for me. I’m pleased with the purchase and price of this all-in-one computer. Staples salesperson who helped me, Marie, was extremely knowledgeable and helpful, so a shout-out to her.

I was told at the store nobody would come to my home to set up my new computer because of the covid. However, one of the sales guy said he would come here to get my hard drive and her wound up taking my old computer back to the store to take the hard drive out and put the files into my new computer.

That did NOT work as the hard drive was too far gone. So the next day the sales guy came here to my home and set up my new computer with some of the same things I had in my old computer. I still have some problems with this new one as a couple of the programs are NOT WORKING RIGHT.

But at least I have my new computer here and most of it is working so far.

Performance is sluggish with the hard drive when first loading Windows. After I finished updating Windows and HP firmware, i switched my HDD to SDD. Performance improved. Upgrading RAM to 16gb. Overall good for kids school and browsing.

Have not tested any games. Priced is on par with performance.

I purchased this AIO for my wife to replace her 5- year- old Intel i3 tower and I wanted to try an AIO for her so it would not take up a lot of space on her desk. According to my wife her impressions of this computer are very favorable.

She does not regret my choice for her. I have had a chance to use her computer also. The PC performs admirably. It is pretty quick in all aspects of use for a Ryzen processor. She appreciates the 27-inch screen for it is clear and crisp.

The 2W speakers are excellent, clear and no distortion even when it is turned up. The shared graphics built into the processor is fine for how she uses the computer. It does a great job for surfing the internet.

It also does a great job with two games she plays the most, Scrabble and Bejeweled. The 8GB of ram are more than enough for her use. Also, the 256 GB SSD for the operating system and her Apps is more than she will use, they open up and run very quickly.

The wired mouse and keyboard work very well, but I wish the lettering on the keyboard was darker. At times it is hard to see, but she has gotten used to it and they both work very well. I wish they had more USB ports on the side of the PC instead of just the one they have.

But to get to the ones in the back is no big deal. The Webcam works very well. I have used it for Zoom and Skype with no problems and I like the fact that you can push it down out of sight when not in use.

So, overall since she has had this AIO PC she has been very satisfied with its performance. As for reliability time will tell, I cannot review that aspect, but with our other HP PC’s they all have been reliable, never had to have any repairs.

If you are looking for an AIO PC I can highly recommend this model. If my wife is satisfied, then I am satisfied.

Bought this over Black Friday weekend. After looking around what this AIO had compared to others for the price was enough for me to try it. So far after using for just over a week I am completely satisfied.

I use for my small business and it has been more then able to meet my needs. The Rayzen processor is fast. I was concerned that the monitor would be to big, but I couldn’t be happier with it. I do wish it had more USB on the side but really not big deal.

Also wish it had come with a wireless keyboard and mouse, but again really not a big deal. Hoping to get many years put of this computer.

Haven’t had it long or had a chance to use it much, but so far this thing is perfect. I bought it to work from home and was amazed at how fast it was. Ready to go almost as soon as I turn it on, like within seconds.

And the screen! Wow it is crystal clear. I will say the keyboard and mouse feel a little on the cheap side, but are still really good and definitely not a reason to shy away from this. I would totally recommend and buy again.

I was one of the relatively few people as I can tell that were able to order and receive this computer back in November from Best Buy when it was initially released (the limited quantity they had apparently sold out in a couple of days).

This replaced my previous all-in-one HP Envy 34 Curved PC I bought new in 2015. I’ve had a great experience with this machine so far. No hardware or software issues new out of the box or in the two months since.

Windows 11 is working well with it. I use this computer all day, every day as both my work computer and for personal use (which includes light gaming). The 5K display is absolutely fantastic, especially the crisp images for both video/graphics as well as for reading lots of text documents, spreadsheets, PowerPoints, etc.

If you are considering the HP Envy 32 All-in-One, I tried that one as well and returned it to get this one instead. While it too was a great machine, I found that its more square-ish display ratio resulted in a screen height that caused me to have to tilt my head back uncomfortably to use the top 1/4 of the display, resulting in neck fatigue, and me somewhat unconsciously never using the full upper real-estate of the screen for that reason (which defeated the purpose of a large-format PC).

The decidedly widescreen ratio of this screen is much more comfortably usable for me, with looking more left and right feeling more natural, rather than up and down. Also, the lower overall screen height gives a more usable angle for the camera in the default top center location (with the HP 32 the camera was virtually looking down in the top of my head).

Being able to move the camera around to multiple magnetic attachment positions with this PC is a surprisingly useful versatility as well. My previous HP Envy 34 could produce a fairly loud amount of fan noise when driven hard (i.

e. , high-resolution gaming). This PC will likely fan when pushed, but the noise level is seemingly less obtrusive. Under normal load, its imperceptible. As another review pointed out here, the plethora of ports for connectivity is a welcomed plus.

The ports in the neck of the stand are particularly convenient. I wasn’t a fan of the included HP mouse at all – too low and flat to be comfortable to use, so I immediately replaced that. I’m happy with the included keyboard, though those that prefer full stroke keys will likely need to bring their own as well.

Overall, I’m very pleased with the aesthetics, build quality, and performance of this PC and am glad that I bought it. I recommend this for persons looking for a high-end all-in-one. With the reasonably beefy hardware specs, and even offering a few upgradeable aspects, you should be able to hang on to this for at least a few pretty productive years.

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TranslateShow in original languageBardzo mały komputer, który zaskoczył mnie jednak możliwościami. Jeśli chodzi o parametry – nie mam większych zastrzeżeń. Procesor Intel Core i5 w zupełności wystarcza tak jak 8 GB RAM.

Dysk można rozbudować w razie potrzeby. Producent zadbał także o najnowszy system operacyjny – dla mnie Windows 11 jest lepszym rozwiązaniem, niż starsza 10-tka. Mogę polecić ten model, ponieważ spełnia swoje zadanie, przy czym nie kosztuje zbyt wiele.

Idealne wypełnienie domowego stanowiska komputerowego do pracy. Zasłużone 5/5. Polecam!.

TranslateShow in original languageWybrałam ten komputer ze względu na dość wysoką wydajność, przy naprawdę niskiej, atrakcyjnej cenie. Pod względem budowy – jest to standardowy, biurowy sprzęt. Wewnątrz wykorzystano jednak procesor Intel Core i7 10 generacji i aż 16 GB RAM DDR4 z możliwością rozbudowy wedle uznania.

Warto zwrócić uwagę na szybki dysk SSD, który zapewnia szybkie ładowanie programów lub systemu, czy też natychmiastowe przenoszenie i kopiowanie plików. Jest to świetny wybór przede wszystkim do pracy.

Charakteryzuje się zadowalającą wydajnością (zabrakło jedynie dedykowanej karty graficznej). Dodatkowo zadbano tutaj o najwyższą kulturę pracy. Komputer działa cicho i nie pojawiają się problemy z przegrzewaniem.

Polecam.

The Dell Inspiron 5400 AIO with MSFT Windows 11 and Dell features and assists, besides looking fantastic, responds quickly and has been very easy to set up and personalize apps. I like it a LOT better than laptop and desktop, but I don’t need to carry a pc with me anymore.

I like that the heat vents are at the top away from me and that the ports are on the back away from me. I added a USB hub so the inconvenience of adding and removing USB drives or other accessories is low.

I had been apprehensive about an AIO, but I love it. The 24 inch screen is at a much better height than was the laptop screen. The only thing I would do differently is buy a higher GB hard drive than 256 GB this one has as well as more RAM than 8.

I don’t store data on the pc hard drive, so I am okay. I don’t need to add my music this time as I play it on an iPhone attached to high quality speakers. I won’t be adding as many photos and videos as before.

The speakers I bought for this are disappointing, but the price I paid is not worth the time and effort of packaging and returning, so they are stored at the back of my closet. I love the Dell speakers that I bought more than 15 years ago.

I use them with my digital piano. I am disappointed that such quality speakers don’t seem to be offered by Dell now. I would have bought a set. I also loved the ease with which Windows 10 reset my two older laptops for recycling and the convenience of being able to drop these off at Goodwill.

Well at first the new Dell All-In-One computer had a fatal memory error, just after initial set up the machine was snail slow and showing the error message. I rebooted; again snail slow – impossible to perform any tasks.

Next, I went into “EDGE” settings and reset to default, deleting cache and returning the few settings that I’d personalized back to original settings. Then, I was able to utilize the Dell All-In-One computer as expected – better than my old computer.

During the couple days of snail slow usage, we were frustrated and ordered additional memory, as I thought maybe the 8mg memory wasn’t enough and ordered 2 16mg memory. I will replace the 8mg with 16mg and add an additional 16mg, totaling 32mg memory.

I have also ordered an additional (matching) monitor from DELL and I believe this will be my best computer (setup) yet! I am thoroughly enjoying my DELL All-In-One as it is slim fitting on top my roll-top desk and I actually love the keyboard that was included as well.

I have my own Logitech mouse, so I did not use the provided mouse, however I will keep it for a back-up mouse as I sometimes use them whenever I take my computer to another room or out to the shop to use.

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So I received my Dell Inspiron 27″ AIO Desktop Computer a little over a week ago and have been putting it through its paces. I am beyond impressed with this computer. This computer is a beast in size and speed, all the while designed very sleek and elegant.

Unpacking the box, you will find just 4 hardware pieces: the amazing 27″ monitor (which houses everything to run the system), the power cord, wireless keyboard, and a wireless mouse. Batteries were included for both the mouse and the keyboard.

Also in the box were just a couple quick start guides. Inside the monitor is the ever so quiet 512GB SSD along with 16GB of RAM. Although the monitor is only 1080P, it is massive and stunning. On the back of the monitor are several ports: HDMI, USB-A, USB-C, microSD card slot, and power cord port.

On top of the monitor nicely tucked away is a video camera that pops out from the top in the middle; which is great for Zoom calls with friends and family. The included keyboard is very light and slender as well as the mouse.

Although I didn’t have any issues with the keyboard or mouse, something struck me as odd with the keyboard. Typically when using the numbered keypad on the right and you turn on the NumLock key (to lock the side numbered keypad in the on position) the light usually stays on.

Well definitely not a dealbreaker, but for some reason, the light would come on but then turn right off after a few seconds. The same is true for the Caps Lock key. My only wish for the mouse would be that I wish it was a mouse with at flywheel.

I’ve become used to using free moving flywheel mice over the last couple of years. That being said, with most keyboards and mice being wireless these days, you can easily swap out the keyboard and mouse that came with this amazing system for something of your choosing.

One other thing I love about this monitor aside from its massive size and clarity is that it tilts backwards onto the stand. This made it a little easier for me to see the TV as I was working over the weekend.

Performance wise, I will say that I know this isn’t the fastest computer that’s out there, however, it’s the fastest that my household has ever used. It’ve very speedy and playing a few non-intensive games online proved that.

The graphics were amazing and the colors seemed to just pop right off the screen, especially with the assistance of Dell’s Cinema software that allows you to change your color settings to your liking.

And as far as sound, the speakers are aligned at the bottom of the screen and they are loud. I had to keep the volume level below 80 to keep from disturbing others. However, I was able to fully test out the sound quality once I was home by myself and I must say it was superb.

All in all I will say this computer is simply amazing. A couple of quirks here and there, but nothing that would change my mind.

I was hesitant to buy this system as it was more expensive than some comparable models, however after looking at manufacturer’s official website I became more confident in their abilities. I’m so glad I did too, as this system from CLX is remarkable.

It was ready to go right out of the box and came with operating system and Nvidia Control Panel pre-installed. Speaking of the box, this thing came packaged so well that it could have dropped on my porch from a helicopter and would have likely survived intact.

Just be sure to open up the case and remove the padding that they use to support the video card before you try to start it up. It also came with multiple printed pages verifying that a tech at their company checked and tested every component in the system, as well as photos of what that component was.

The cable management is phenomenal, the LEDs are gorgeous, and the system itself is lightning fast. I’m playing Cyberpunk with Ultra Ray Tracing settings in 1080p and it’s smooth as butter. It runs my Valve Index VR like a champ at 144hz.

Quality all around. My only complaint, which is nothing CLX did wrong, is that the specifications on Newegg did not tell me what style/ manufacturer of motherboard or GPU was installed (just stated it was an RTX 3060ti).

Anyone who has built a computer knows that the manufacturer makes a HUGE difference, so I was rolling the dice a little in this regard. Looking at CLX’s website again gave me comfort as they seem to mainly use MSI products in their Intel/Nvidia builds.

This particular one ended up coming with an MSI Z490A-Pro and MSI Ventus GPU, both of which I am happy with especially at this price point. For a pre-built mid level gaming system, you can’t go wrong with this one.

You won’t be playing with Ultra Ray Tracing in 4k at 120hz or anything, but you’ll easily part two times or more for that kind of capability. This system will obliterate 1080p and 1440 though, which is exactly what I was wanting.

If you want total control over the components, go to the CLX website where you can pick literally everything. If you don’t want that level of complexity and just want a gaming computer that works amazingly well out of the box with no hassle or tech knowledge required, buy this one.

Five stars!.

I held off providing a review as I wanted to get some time on the machine to make an informed evaluation. The i7 processor provides more than enough horsepower to scream through our most complex and cumbersome financial software.

The 512GB SSD was the reason we selected this unit though, and it has more than met our expectations. No more lag for disk access!! This unit has been a great addition to our private local area network with conventional large capacity hard drives, to which we do our backups.

The included keyboard is on the small and ‘light’ side, with adequate key response, but a smaller form factor than I personally prefer, but some like a smaller keyboard. DVD/ CD Drive was a little noisier than I expected on first use, and the enclosed mouse was destroyed and in pieces as a result of poor shipment packing; I held my breath when I first plugged it in for startup because I was concerned about potential shipping damage, but found we had no issues.

I grumbled a bit to myself about the poor packing and destroyed mouse, but am otherwise very pleased with the performance of the unit we purchased, and the value we received. I would certainly recommend this tech shopping option to those looking to add hardware.

HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE!! ITEM IS NOT AS DESCRIBED. Front cover arrived loose, WiFi is simply a single antenna. It’s not built in. As soon as I inserted the antenna it pulled the chip out of the USB port.

6 emails, a week later still no resolution. They sent me a YouTube video to fix it!?!?! If I was a tech expert I wouldn’t need to buy a computer already put together, I’d build one. WILL NEVER BUY FROM THEM AGAIN AS LONG AS I LIVE.

I bought this computer since the hard drive on my desktop crashed. So, I took it into my favorite computer store, Micro Center. The person I spoke with at the desk said it would take about a week to see what could be done.

After two weeks I did a chat with someone in tech support who apologized and said he would have someone in tech send me an email about the machine. Here we are three weeks later, and I haven’t heard anything! What gives!.

I bought this machine, and after unboxing at home and installing a number of apps and programs, I found out it did not have a 512GB SSD (ad – “for high speed performance and quick loading,) but rather a 512GB Kioxia HDD (ranked last out of 10 HDDs online, at 1/3 the score).

Refreshed Windows to wipe out all my work, and took it back to the store and ordered another. This one came with a proper SSD. But it also advertises a 5. 1 Surround Sound – ” Its impressive 5. 1 surround sound audio brings a thumping theatre experience right to your room.

” I have a 5. 1 speaker system. There didn’t seem to be the appropriate audio jacks for 5. 1 – only a green (line out, front speakers), pink (microphone in) and blue (stereo line in) audio input. Normally orange (sub-woofer and centre speaker out) and black (rear surround speakers) are included.

But I did some research (no help from the documentation with this system) and sometimes the pink and blue inputs serve two functions, so I plugged the orange and black inputs from my 5. 1 speaker system into these jacks (black into blue, orange into pink).

But when I go to the Sound configuration option for the audio system, the only options are stereo and quadraphonic. I can hear four channel sound when I choose quadraphonic. There is no option to set up a 5.

1 surround sound system with the internal sound card. I spent the entire weekend trying to get help with this. I was shunted through five different chat agents, and the last one told me I was being transferred to the Geek Squad, and they could fix this problem Yeah well, the Geek Squad told me I had to pay a $50 component installation fee to fix this.

I refused – said the machine as sold should be fit for purpose under consumer laws, or the retailer should fix it. I could take it back to the store (3rd trip) and get no help, or have to pay the Geek Squad again.

Looks like I’ll have to buy a sound card and put it in myself.

I highly recommend this computer; these days it is getting harder to find a good desktop computer at a reasonable price and with good specifications. Last week it was on sale for $999. 99, now back to $1199.

99, but I am certain it will go back to the sale price. Plenty of ports and this has an optical drive, hard to find these days; even though it is a flimsy one as are most, one can always buy a good external optical drive.

Most importantly is the fact that this computer has 512GB SSD (solid state drive) for storing music, videos, games, etc. – google this vs HDD. Some persons “may” not know that SSD means speed of your system and how quickly documents and such are opened/downloaded.

One can always buy an external HDD for more storage capacity. HP is a good brand and offers online support. Go for it!!.

As a highschool student looking for a long-term family desktop that could stay with me through the years, this HP Envy caught my eye. It was a metallic beauty on the outside as well as for the specs inside.

I wanted it to be able to run everything smoothly, including softwares, high-quality videos, and some average games. Its reviews on YouTube were also quite positive. Someone mentioned that the cooling was whisper quiet and I can confirm that’s true.

My parents bought this on the Labour Day Sale, when it was around $950. It was purchased in the afternoon and came the next morning. That 1-day delivery speed was a great surprise! I got it set up with a new Acer monitor from the site, switched the mouse to one I’d bought before, and we were good to go! It’s performance so far is just perfect!.

Took a while to get the customized components assembled, but given the current market it makes sense. I also received some surprise free upgrades. Received a 3200mhz ram kit instead of 3000mhz, and a seagate Baracuda 1tb instead of a Adata 960gig ssd.

No communication on these so it was a pleasant surprise as I was going through and checking it over. The cable management was excellent front and back, well run and excess cables neatly tucked away and tied back.

The packing was excellent both outside the case, and inside. Double boxed with several expandable air bags. All components were in place and it did work right out of the box. Small issues. The pcie retaining tab for the gpu was detatched andloose in the case, the slot and card were not damaged but the tab was not attached.

Quick fix not a real issue. Also Xmp was not enabled out of the box, I didn’t pay for the overclocking, but I’d expect a computer from CLXgaming to come with it enabled. Again quick fix. Overall very happy with the looks, performance, and quality of the build, the provided 3dmark score on the desktop was accurate to what I received.

12th gen Intel AND a 3070 Ti for a reasonable price? It would be an absolute yes if it weren’t for these caveats: 1. For some reason, one of the fans spins at max speed instead of adaptive speed – regardless of thermals.

This makes the system surprisingly loud. It’s plenty cool without a max-speed fan because of the case’s great airflow, so you or tech support can change the fan speed in BIOS unless you don’t mind the noise.

2. The RAM is bottlenecked to all heck. The out-of-the-box RAM speed (from my system, at least) was clocked at 2400mhz instead of 3200mhz. Hitching occurred just from having 5 tabs open in Edge/Chrome.

No CPU nor GPU can brute-force their way through extremely underclocked RAM unless you, once again, change this in BIOS. As far as I know, this is NOT on Micro Center, but on MSI (the motherboard manufacturer) because it’s MSI.

Why the settings are the way they were is beyond me, but once I changed both fan & memory speeds, the system runs like butter. Extremely fast boot times, fairly quiet fans, no problems running multiple programs at once, great at video editing, and can run pretty much any game (including VR).

IF you can get around the fan and RAM (if you get those issues at all), I recommend this system.

I was planning on building my own PC when I came upon this computer at MicroCenter. In general, prebuilts are always so much more expensive than if you were to pick the components out yourself. Furthermore, companies often source the cheapest quality components- such as motherboards, ram modules, and cases.

However, MicroCenter has a huge inventory of PC parts from various manufacturers so that you can guarantee that each component is of the highest quality which you are used to. This PC has a 3070ti, water cooling, and NVMe SSD- there’s nothing that you can do wrong with it.

There is one thing which I am pretty critical about- and that is the fans are quite loud even at rest. It isn’t really bothersome, and I don’t think you would find a problem with it. Also, the 24-pin connector for PSU’s wires is really ugly with a mix of red, yellow, white, and black.

It is absolutely an eyesore within a computer that’s mostly black. I’m really just nitpicking at the smallest minute details. This is an excellent computer that I would recommend to anybody who doesn’t know too much about computers.

Don’t get me wrong its a good pc. The parts in it are nice, its downfall, cable management. Unfortunately the backside is where all cables flow. First boot out of box, one of the fans didn’t move, but LED was lit.

Come to find that one cable port bends back and forth because it is broken. (I assume from being smashed by the backing of the case). While another just wasn’t even plugged in. Granted, all fans work as of now but that bending port is worrisome.

The other issues are not big deals, due to them being aesthetic. But it is still a little bit of a letdown considering its a brand new PC. The CPU water-cooling fan’s paint was scratched off probably with a screwdriver during installing parts.

The front glass case cover was scratched in two different areas, with another indent in the glass in another area. HOWEVER at the end of the day these are just aesthetics and everything is working with minor labor that I had to do.

Which is probably just an outlier from the rest of the pre-builts!.